official poverty rate was cut in half from 1960–1974, extending the line through the Reagan era and the Bush era is like saying that disease did not go away when penicillin was introduced or that penicillin was taken away and now the disease is at the same level. He called for separate discussion of the two time periods. He agreed that underreporting is a key issue when looking at the CPS and SNAP participation, noting that the CPS underreports SNAP participation by 30 percent. He also agreed with Korenman’s point about the questions asked as part of the CPS. A survey taker asks questions that a child welfare worker would ask, and a respondent may fear that answering the question negatively could mean losing his or her children, a much more severe consequence than losing benefits. He called for research comparing the United States to societies that have essentially eliminated hunger and food insecurity, citing the Scandinavian countries’ experiences. He suggested that if the preponderance of evidence shows the most meaningful factors affecting food insecurity are unemployment and poverty, more collective efforts should address income and poverty.