Appendix C
Committee Meetings

First Meeting.

November 25–26, 1996

Presentations:

Study Background and Expectations from Sponsor

Sonny Wilson and Ray Conrad, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF)

Bomb Scene Investigation Procedures

Mike Bouchard, ATF

FAA Explosive Detection Program

Lyle Malotky, Committee Member

Second Meeting and “Workshop on Technical Details Relevant to the Use and Effectiveness of Taggants”

January 13–15, 1997

Presentations:

International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Work on Plastic Explosive Taggants (in Executive Session)

Tung Ho Chen, Committee Member

Pilot Test for the Identification Tagging of Explosives: Description and Results

Gary Fuller, former Aerospace Corporation staff

Taggant concept-Microtrace, Inc.

William J. Kerns and Charles W. Faulkner

Taggant concept-Micro Tracers, Inc.

David A. Eisenberg

   

NOTE: Because of the sensitive nature of some of the information, some presentations to the committee were not delivered in open session. These are indicated by “(in Executive Session).”



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--> Appendix C Committee Meetings First Meeting. November 25–26, 1996 Presentations: Study Background and Expectations from Sponsor Sonny Wilson and Ray Conrad, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) Bomb Scene Investigation Procedures Mike Bouchard, ATF FAA Explosive Detection Program Lyle Malotky, Committee Member Second Meeting and “Workshop on Technical Details Relevant to the Use and Effectiveness of Taggants” January 13–15, 1997 Presentations: International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Work on Plastic Explosive Taggants (in Executive Session) Tung Ho Chen, Committee Member Pilot Test for the Identification Tagging of Explosives: Description and Results Gary Fuller, former Aerospace Corporation staff Taggant concept-Microtrace, Inc. William J. Kerns and Charles W. Faulkner Taggant concept-Micro Tracers, Inc. David A. Eisenberg     NOTE: Because of the sensitive nature of some of the information, some presentations to the committee were not delivered in open session. These are indicated by “(in Executive Session).”

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--> Taggant stakeholder-National Mining Association Terry O'Connor and Bobby J. Jackson Taggant stakeholder-Institute of Makers of Explosives J. Christopher Ronay Taggants and Explosive Detection Research David Boyd, National Institute of Justice Taggant stakeholder-A Law Enforcement Perspective Lt. Thomas Spencer and Sgt. Howard Rechtshaffen, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department Taggant concept-CDS, Inc. Victor A. Cranich Taggant concept-SRI International James Colton Taggant concept-Isotag LLC Manny Gonzalez and Dale Spall Taggant concept-Cambridge Isotope Laboratories, Inc. Daniel Bolt Taggant concept-Tri-Valley Research John Pearson and Robert M. Pearson Taggant concept-Bio Traces, Inc. Andrzej Drukier and James Wadiak Taggant concept-Biocode, Inc. Frank Angella Taggant concept-Innovative Biosystems, Inc. Keith Stormo Taggant stakeholder-Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute (SAMMI) James Baker, Don Burton, and Ken Green Taggant stakeholder-National Rifle Association (NRA) Tanya Metaksa and Mark Barnes

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--> Taggant stakeholder-Chemical Manufacturers Association (CMA) Marybeth Kelliher Taggant stakeholder-American Pyrotechnics Association (APA) John Conkling and Julie Hechtman Taggant stakeholder-International Society of Explosives Engineers (ISEE) Jeffrey L. Dean Third Meeting March 3–5, 1997 Presentations: JASON committee reports on explosive detection (in Executive Session) Paul Horowitz, Harvard University and member of the JASONs Briefing on definition of terms (types of explosives) and precursor materials (in Executive Session) Jimmie Oxley, Committee Member Briefing on types of bombers, tactics, materials, and methods of fabrication (in Executive Session) Greg Carl, FBI Explosive manufacturing, chain of ownership, and impurity profiling between batches Paul Rydlund, Vice President, El Dorado Chemical The Fertilizer Institute Gary Myers, President, and Ford West, Vice President Technical Steering Working Group (TSWG) on Counter-Terrorism explosive detection programs (in Executive Session) Mike Jakub, State Department and TSWG Explosive desensitization program (in Executive Session) Joe Hemeriel, Army Research Laboratory Navy work on desensitizing of explosive materials (in Executive Session) Ruth Doherty, Naval Surface Warfare Center-Indian Head

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--> Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) controls on precursor chemicals (in Executive Session) Will Carpenter, Monsanto (retired) and Robert Mikulak, Arms Control and Disarmament Agency Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) controls on precursor chemicals (in Executive Session) John Mudri, DEA Chemical industry flows (in Executive Session) Jeff Terry, Chemical Manufacturers Association Fourth Meeting March 24–25, 1997 Presentations: Holston Army Ammunition Plant Marking of Military C-4 Explosive (in Executive Session) Jerry Hammonds, Holston Army Ammunition Plant Law Enforcement Perspectives (in Executive Session) Richard Saferstein (retired), New Jersey State Police Laboratory Cobalt-60 Detection Taggant Evaluation (in Executive Session) Kenneth Moy, Special Technologies Laboratory Types of Explosive Materials Used in Improvised Explosive Devices (in Executive Session) Rick Strobel, ATF Laboratory Taggant Usefulness in an Actual Bombing Case (in Executive Session) Dan Boeh, ATF Investigator Landmine Sniffing Technologies (in Executive Session) Regina Dugan, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency Ammonium Nitrate Manufacturing Robert Hopler, Committee Member Status of the Commercial Explosives Industry Robert Hopler, Committee Member

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--> Legal Issues in Actual Bombing Cases James W. Jardine, Q.C., Barrister and Solicitor Behavorial science: Deterrent Effects on Crime Daniel Nagin, Carnegie Mellon University Risk Assessment James Lamb, Jellinek, Schwartz and Connolly, Inc. Measuring Costs and Benefits Richard Mudge, Apogee Research, Inc. Site Visits: On March 26, members of the committee visited both the ATF (Rockville, Md.) and FBI (Washington, D.C.) forensic science laboratories associated with bomb scene investigations.