Telephone interview with Midcareer Alumna Kathleen Eyre Monday July 8, 1996, 11 a.m.

1a. Based on your experience and familiarity with the Pew program, what did the program really accomplish? What are the most important contributions?

I did the midcareer program, that unusual 1-year fellowship that brought professionals into the health policy realm. I would have to say that the greatest accomplishment was introducing a paradigm or a way of thinking to existing professionals. We all came out of professional positions. I had a physician and another lawyer in my class. So, we came in with our own professional set of skills and analytic tools, and what we were introduced to for the first time was a rigorous policy analysis paradigm and way of thinking, the kinds of questions to ask, and the different disciplines that influence policy (it's very varied, obviously). I in our brief year we were exposed to all kinds of different academic settings and disciplines. The greatest accomplishment, therefore, for the midcareer fellows was the introduction of a paradigm, of an analytic set of tools that was an overlay to an existing set of professional skills and that was extremely useful in going forward. Other kinds of things would be that professionals were introduced into the academic world, giving us an understanding how academics think and work, and also vice versa, exposing academics to other professionals in terms of "in the real world we would think this way." There was probably pretty positive cross-fertilization both ways. Then, of course, as you hear from everybody the great network that was developed. I just can't underscore that enough. It's been such a huge advantage for me in the policy world, particularly since I've been back in Washington, just to call people up and say "what about doing this project," and there is a lot of good examples of that which I'll talk about later.

In terms of the overall accomplishments, the Pew programs as a set of programs set up a curriculum for the training of health policy analysts and professionals. It really established a model for training in a lot of different settings that will continue in those particular settings and in many others, I'm sure.

2. What was the most innovative or unique aspect of your program design and implementation?

It was the opportunity of stepping out of a successful professional career for a year. It's really unusual to be able to



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