C Committee Meetings

First Meeting

November 25-26, 1996

Presentations

Study Background and Expectations from Sponsor

Hubert E. Wilson and Ray Conrad, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), Washington, D.C.

Bomb Scene Investigation Procedures

Michael Bouchard, ATF, Washington, D.C.

Federal Aviation Administration Explosive Detection Program

Lyle Malotky, Committee Member

Second Meeting and Workshop, ''Technical Details Relevant to the Use and Effectiveness of Taggants"

January 13-15, 1997

Presentations

International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Work on Plastic Explosive Taggants (in Executive Session)

Tung-ho Chen, Committee Member

NOTE: Because of the sensitive nature of some of the information, some presentations to the committee were not delivered in open session. These are indicated by "(in Executive Session)."



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Containing the Threat from Illegal Bombings: An Integrated National Strategy for Marking, Tagging, Rendering Inert, and Licensing Explosives and Their Precursors C Committee Meetings First Meeting November 25-26, 1996 Presentations Study Background and Expectations from Sponsor Hubert E. Wilson and Ray Conrad, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), Washington, D.C. Bomb Scene Investigation Procedures Michael Bouchard, ATF, Washington, D.C. Federal Aviation Administration Explosive Detection Program Lyle Malotky, Committee Member Second Meeting and Workshop, ''Technical Details Relevant to the Use and Effectiveness of Taggants" January 13-15, 1997 Presentations International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Work on Plastic Explosive Taggants (in Executive Session) Tung-ho Chen, Committee Member NOTE: Because of the sensitive nature of some of the information, some presentations to the committee were not delivered in open session. These are indicated by "(in Executive Session)."

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Containing the Threat from Illegal Bombings: An Integrated National Strategy for Marking, Tagging, Rendering Inert, and Licensing Explosives and Their Precursors Nationwide Pilot Test for the Identification Tagging of Explosives (1977-1980) Gary H. Fuller (former Aerospace Corporation staff), Systems Support Inc., Great Falls, Va. Taggant Concept—Microtrace Inc. William J. Kerns and Charles W. Faulkner, Microtrace Inc., Minneapolis, Minn. Taggant Concept—Micro Tracers Inc. David A. Eisenberg, Micro Tracer Inc., San Francisco, Calif. Taggant Stakeholder—National Mining Association Terry O'Connor and Bobby J. Jackson, National Mining Association, Washington, D.C. Taggant Stakeholder—Institute of Makers of Explosives J. Christopher Ronay, Institute of Markers of Explosives, Washington, D.C. Taggants and Explosive Detection Research David Boyd, National Institute of Justice, Washington, D.C. Taggant Stakeholder—A Law Enforcement Perspective Lt. Thomas Spencer and Sgt. Howard Rechtshaffen, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, Los Angeles, Calif. Taggant Concept—Chemical Delivery Systems Inc. Victor A. Cranich, Chemical Delivery Systems Inc., Kettering, Ohio Taggant Concept—SRI International James Colton, SRI International, Menlo Park, Calif. Taggant Concept—Isotag LLC Manuel E. Gonzalez and Dale Spall, Isotag LLC, Houston, Tex. Taggant Concept—Cambridge Isotope Laboratories Inc. Daniel Bolt, Cambridge Isotope Laboratories Inc., Andover, Mass. Taggant Concept—Tri-Valley Research John Pearson and Robert M. Pearson, Tri-Valley Research, Medford, Ore. Taggant Concept—BioTraces Inc. Andrzej Drukier and James Wadiak, BioTraces Inc., Fairfax, Va. Taggant Concept—Biocode Inc. Frank Angella, Biocode Inc., Cambridge, Mass. Taggant Concept—Innovative Biosystems Inc. Keith Stormo, Innovative Biosystems Inc., Moscow, Idaho Taggant Stakeholder—Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute James J. Baker, Donald H. Burton, and Kenneth Green, Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute, Washington, D.C. Taggant Stakeholder—National Rifle Association Tanya K. Metaksa and Mark Barnes, National Rifle Association, Washington, D.C. Taggant Stakeholder—Chemical Manufacturers Association Marybeth Kelliher, Chemical Manufacturers Association, Arlington, Va.

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Containing the Threat from Illegal Bombings: An Integrated National Strategy for Marking, Tagging, Rendering Inert, and Licensing Explosives and Their Precursors Taggant Stakeholder—American Pyrotechnics Association John A. Conkling and Julie Hechtman, American Pyrotechnics Association, Gaithersburg, Md. Taggant Stakeholder—International Society of Explosives Engineers Jeffrey L. Dean, International Society of Explosives Engineers, Cleveland, Ohio Third Meeting March 3-5, 1997 Presentations JASON Program Reports on Explosives Detection (in Executive Session) Paul Horowitz, Harvard University, and member of the JASON program Types of Explosives and Precursor Materials (in Executive Session) Jimmie Oxley, Committee Member Types of Bombers, Tactics, Materials, and Methods of Fabrication (in Executive Session) Gregory A. Carl, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Washington, D.C. Explosives Manufacturing, Chain of Ownership, and Impurity Profiling Between Batches Paul Rydlund, El Dorado Chemical, St. Louis, Mo. Taggant Stakeholder—The Fertilizer Institute Gary Myers, President, and Ford West, Vice President, the Fertilizer Institute, Washington, D.C. Technical Support Working Group on Counterterrorism Explosives Detection Programs (in Executive Session) Michael Jakub, State Department, Washington, D.C. Explosives Desensitization Program (in Executive Session) Joseph Heimerl, Army Research Laboratory, Adelphi, Md. Navy Work on Desensitizing of Explosive Materials (in Executive Session) Ruth Doherty, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Indian Head, Md. Chemical Weapons Convention Controls on Precursor Chemicals (in Executive Session) William Carpenter, Monsanto (retired), St. Louis, Mo., and Robert Mikulak, U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, Washington, D.C. Drug Enforcement Agency Controls on Precursor Chemicals (in Executive Session) John Moudri, Drug Enforcement Agency, Washington, D.C. Chemical Industry Flows (in Executive Session) Jeffrey C. Terry, Chemical Manufacturers Association, Arlington, Va. Congressional Discussion Christopher Putala, Senator Joseph Biden's Office, U.S. Senate, Washington, D.C.

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Containing the Threat from Illegal Bombings: An Integrated National Strategy for Marking, Tagging, Rendering Inert, and Licensing Explosives and Their Precursors Fourth Meeting March 24-25, 1997 Presentations Holston Army Ammunition Plant Marking of Military C-4 Explosive (in Executive Session) Jerry Hammonds, Holston Army Ammunition Plant, Kingston, Tenn. Law Enforcement Perspectives (in Executive Session) Richard Saferstein (retired), New Jersey State Police Laboratory, Trenton, N.J. Cobalt-60 Detection Taggant Evaluation (in Executive Session) Kenneth Moy, Special Technologies Laboratory, Santa Barbara, Calif. Types of Explosive Materials Used in Improvised Explosive Devices (in Executive Session) Richard Strobel, ATF Laboratory, Rockville, Md. Taggant Usefulness in an Actual Bombing Case (in Executive Session) Daniel Boeh, ATF Investigator, Pittsburgh, Pa. Landmine Sniffing Technologies (in Executive Session) Regina Dugan, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, Arlington, Va. Ammonium Nitrate Manufacturing Robert Hopler, Committee Member Status of the Commercial Explosives Industry Robert Hopler, Committee Member Legal Issues in Actual Bombing Cases James W. Jardine, Q.C., Barrister and Solicitor, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Behavioral Science: Deterrent Effects on Crime Daniel Nagin, Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, Pa. Risk Assessment James Lamb, Jellinek, Schwartz and Connolly Inc., Washington, D.C. Measuring Costs and Benefits Richard Mudge, Apogee Research Inc., Bethesda, Md. Site Visit March 26, 1997 Members of the committee visited the ATF (Rockville, Md.) and FBI (Washington, D.C.) forensic science laboratories associated with bomb scene investigations

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Containing the Threat from Illegal Bombings: An Integrated National Strategy for Marking, Tagging, Rendering Inert, and Licensing Explosives and Their Precursors Site Visit April 6-11, 1997 Six members of the committee visited the Swiss Scientific Research Service (Zurich, Switzerland) and the British Ministry of Defence (London, England) Fifth Meeting May 5-6, 1997 Presentations Briefings on ATF/FBI Laboratories and European Site Visits Reports (in Executive Session) Alexander MacLachlan and Edward Arnett, Committee Members Desensitization of ANFO Joseph V. Urenovitch and Bibhu Monhanty, ICI Explosives, McMasterville, Quebec, Canada Bomb Scene Investigation and Utility of Taggants Steven Burmeister, FBI Laboratory, Washington, D.C. Congressional Discussion William McGeveran, Representative Charles Schumer's Office, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, D.C. Sixth Meeting June 1-3, 1997 Committee Deliberations Seventh Meeting July 17-18, 1997 Committee Deliberations Eighth Meeting September 4-5, 1997 Committee Deliberations Ninth Meeting January 22-23, 1998 Committee Deliberations